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Lots of violence with words here with little to no escape. You all need to find a safe space.
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Mostly just a way to let off steam and frustration.
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Yes, my apologies. All this verbal violence just makes me crazy.
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This forum needs a holiday like Festivus....for the rest of us.
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This is the correct answer, btw.
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The "...separation of church and state" Jefferson wrote about in 1802 was to protect the church from the state, not the other way around.mdwoods wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 10:36 amIt's Christians who want the laws of the nation to follow their religion.PerryHall wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 10:28 amMany atheists are as bad as vegans with their sanctimonious lecturing and preaching. I think they are trying to convince themselves more than others of their beliefs.
Jefferson wasn't alone, Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, said an authentic Christian church would be possible only if there was “a wall or hedge of separation” between the “wilderness of the world” and “the garden of the church.” He believed that any government involvement in the church would corrupt the church. Williams was the first to use the now misquoted and misdirected term separation of church and state.
Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, believer or not. We're not a Hindu nation, not Muslim, not Shinto, etc...
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We already have the Christian version of sharia law in the south. We don't need it in our country. "The separation of church and state is a concept that prevents the government from creating an official religion". We are not a Christian nation.Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:52 amThe "...separation of church and state" Jefferson wrote about in 1802 was to protect the church from the state, not the other way around.mdwoods wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 10:36 amIt's Christians who want the laws of the nation to follow their religion.PerryHall wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 10:28 amMany atheists are as bad as vegans with their sanctimonious lecturing and preaching. I think they are trying to convince themselves more than others of their beliefs.
Jefferson wasn't alone, Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, said an authentic Christian church would be possible only if there was “a wall or hedge of separation” between the “wilderness of the world” and “the garden of the church.” He believed that any government involvement in the church would corrupt the church. Williams was the first to use the now misquoted and misdirected term separation of church and state.
Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, believer or not. We're not a Hindu nation, not Muslim, not Shinto, etc...
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I'm not so sure... I mean... have you read HLT's posts?baccaruda wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 9:44 amIn my experience people who believe in God have weaker morals. They think their belief in an invisible superperson alone gives them authority over others, and excuses their transgressions against others.HappyLittleTrees wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 9:10 amThat whole question is so fuddernutter moronic.
Gods are made up by man, and man instills their own morals and values into their gods. The idea that you need an invisible superdaddy to have a moral code is pure silliness.
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Can I please just get a water? I don't drink alcohol.
Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:59 pm Young-Earth Creationists not only fail to take science seriously – they truly fail to take the Bible seriously.
cullenbryant wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:26 pm there is never no religion. if you removed every one you mentioned, man will build himself a golden calf.
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Yeah he's pretty abrasive, but in a secular way.TRx wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 12:05 pmI'm not so sure... I mean... have you read HLT's posts?baccaruda wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 9:44 amIn my experience people who believe in God have weaker morals. They think their belief in an invisible superperson alone gives them authority over others, and excuses their transgressions against others.HappyLittleTrees wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 9:10 amThat whole question is so fuddernutter moronic.
Gods are made up by man, and man instills their own morals and values into their gods. The idea that you need an invisible superdaddy to have a moral code is pure silliness.
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Never said we were a Christina nation, just pointing out the architecture our Founders used to inspire the Founding Documents, laws, morals, rights, etc.mdwoods wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:59 amWe already have the Christian version of sharia law in the south. We don't need it in our country. "The separation of church and state is a concept that prevents the government from creating an official religion". We are not a Christian nation.Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:52 amThe "...separation of church and state" Jefferson wrote about in 1802 was to protect the church from the state, not the other way around.mdwoods wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 10:36 amIt's Christians who want the laws of the nation to follow their religion.
Jefferson wasn't alone, Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, said an authentic Christian church would be possible only if there was “a wall or hedge of separation” between the “wilderness of the world” and “the garden of the church.” He believed that any government involvement in the church would corrupt the church. Williams was the first to use the now misquoted and misdirected term separation of church and state.
Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, believer or not. We're not a Hindu nation, not Muslim, not Shinto, etc...
And, you state you use the Golden Rule as your moral compass illustrates this. "...do to others what you would have them do to you,..." is the precept in the Gospel of Mathew 7:12 - "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets". Even though you're not a Christian, don't believe in sky daddy stuff, you agree that your moral compass is rooted in Judeo-Christian principles(?)
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I agree up to a point. But you don't need to be religious to be a moral person. That is something taught by your parents in my opinion. I know some religious people who I think are moral, including yourself. I also know non-religious people who are moral.Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 1:37 pmNever said we were a Christina nation, just pointing out the architecture our Founders used to inspire the Founding Documents, laws, morals, rights, etc.mdwoods wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:59 amWe already have the Christian version of sharia law in the south. We don't need it in our country. "The separation of church and state is a concept that prevents the government from creating an official religion". We are not a Christian nation.Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:52 amThe "...separation of church and state" Jefferson wrote about in 1802 was to protect the church from the state, not the other way around.
Jefferson wasn't alone, Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, said an authentic Christian church would be possible only if there was “a wall or hedge of separation” between the “wilderness of the world” and “the garden of the church.” He believed that any government involvement in the church would corrupt the church. Williams was the first to use the now misquoted and misdirected term separation of church and state.
Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, believer or not. We're not a Hindu nation, not Muslim, not Shinto, etc...
And, you state you use the Golden Rule as your moral compass illustrates this. "...do to others what you would have them do to you,..." is the precept in the Gospel of Mathew 7:12 - "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets". Even though you're not a Christian, don't believe in sky daddy stuff, you agree that your moral compass is rooted in Judeo-Christian principles(?)
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100%mdwoods wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 1:46 pmI agree up to a point. But you don't need to be religious to be a moral person. That is something taught by your parents in my opinion. I know some religious people who I think are moral, including yourself. I also know non-religious people who are moral.Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 1:37 pmNever said we were a Christina nation, just pointing out the architecture our Founders used to inspire the Founding Documents, laws, morals, rights, etc.mdwoods wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:59 amWe already have the Christian version of sharia law in the south. We don't need it in our country. "The separation of church and state is a concept that prevents the government from creating an official religion". We are not a Christian nation.Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2024 11:52 amThe "...separation of church and state" Jefferson wrote about in 1802 was to protect the church from the state, not the other way around.
Jefferson wasn't alone, Roger Williams, founder of Rhode Island, said an authentic Christian church would be possible only if there was “a wall or hedge of separation” between the “wilderness of the world” and “the garden of the church.” He believed that any government involvement in the church would corrupt the church. Williams was the first to use the now misquoted and misdirected term separation of church and state.
Our country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, believer or not. We're not a Hindu nation, not Muslim, not Shinto, etc...
And, you state you use the Golden Rule as your moral compass illustrates this. "...do to others what you would have them do to you,..." is the precept in the Gospel of Mathew 7:12 - "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets". Even though you're not a Christian, don't believe in sky daddy stuff, you agree that your moral compass is rooted in Judeo-Christian principles(?)
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And the winner is....... uh......
"Racist" is a toolword. You must know that.
Any objective examination of the effect of "them" has to lead you to the behavior and ideology that is now termed, "racist."
Refute if you can.
Any objective examination of the effect of "them" has to lead you to the behavior and ideology that is now termed, "racist."
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All of us!
Great thread.
Comrade Renski wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:59 pm Young-Earth Creationists not only fail to take science seriously – they truly fail to take the Bible seriously.
cullenbryant wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:26 pm there is never no religion. if you removed every one you mentioned, man will build himself a golden calf.
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Coming in to this conversation late..... I have a Jewish next door neighbor who has been absolutely wonderful. She's not orthodox. Her husband died a few years back and was a crabby guy, but he earned that right since he suffered with some really annoying skin problem for a long time. She's 81 and I kid you not she looks more like 60 & attractive. She still works as a realtor and will occasionally ask me to help her move stuff to stage houses. I never wanted to take money since I considered her a friend but she'd always do something nice like send over a nice bottle of booze or drop a generous gift card in my mailbox. She's tough and won't take no for an answer.
Funny thing- We never talked politics until about 6 months ago. Turns out she's liberal but her husband was a staunch republican and Trump fan. She said they used to fight like cats and dogs over politics.
She's great.
Funny thing- We never talked politics until about 6 months ago. Turns out she's liberal but her husband was a staunch republican and Trump fan. She said they used to fight like cats and dogs over politics.
She's great.
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Much hatred for Christians in the thread…almost like Christians are controlling the lives of non Christians.
The US of A should bring in more Muslims…so Christians don’t have as much influence.
Liberal fascism/progressives will restrict your liberty more than Christians…vote for them…vs Christians
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Page: "Potus wants to know everything we're doing,"
Barry: “...they’re now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”
Farkas: “...if they found out how we knew what we knew about their … the Trump staff dealing with Russians...”
Page: "Potus wants to know everything we're doing,"
Barry: “...they’re now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.”
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Hatred? At the most disdain.